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Author: David Lee Thompson
Book:
"River
of Memories: An Appalachian Boyhood”
Interviewer: W. H. McDonald –
President of the MWSA
W. H. "Bill" McDonald:
Vietnam veteran and author David Lee Thompson grew up at a place called
Bowen Creek, West Virginia. After serving in the Army he graduated from
Marshall University in Huntington, West Virginia, with an M.A. in education.
Now retired from teaching, he lives in Salt Rock, West Virginia, with his
wife, Janet. They have two sons and two grandsons.
Q: First of all, tell us a
little about your book and why you decided to write and share it with all of
us.
River of Memories is a
memoir about growing up at a place called Bowen Creek, West Virginia, in the
1940s-'50s. Although it is primarily about my Appalachian boyhood, the last
chapter deals with my tour of duty in Vietnam (1965-66), with the 1st
Infantry Division (The Big Red One). In 1999, I retired from teaching. My
wife, Janet, still had another year to go. That fall, I was home alone with
nothing to do other than be the perfect househusband, so I made a stab at
trying my hand at writing, something I had always wanted to do. I wrote nine
stories about life on Bowen Creek with my parents, two brothers, and three
sisters. I titled it, Cry Like a Baby, since my father was always
mimicking the sound of a crying baby to entertain or annoy anyone who'd
listen. I had it comb bound at Office Depot and presented each of my
siblings and two sons with a copy for Christmas. Shortly thereafter, I began
receiving phone calls, letters, and email from my brothers and sisters,
nieces and nephews, and from friends of all. Everyone was complimentary and
wanted their own personal copy
–
signed. Although I was elated with everyone's
reaction, I still wasn't satisfied with what I'd done. The autumn of 1999
hadn't been enough time to have my say. In January 2001, there was an
advertisement in the newspaper about a life-writing class being taught at
the Huntington Museum of Art. Janet said, "Here's your chance to write
more." Consequently, I enrolled in the January class and the one in the fall
of 2001 as well. As a result, I added four new chapters, a lengthy
introduction, and an epilogue, turning it into a full-length memoir that I
was ready to share with the world.
Q: How long did writing
your book take, and what was the process you used to write? What I mean by
this is: did you write for days on end until it was done, or did you work on
it over time –
when the mood hit you?
From 1999 until its publication
in 2002, I worked on River of Memories a little more than three
years. However, my devotion was somewhat sporadic. I would work on it days,
weeks, and months at a time. Then, I would put it away for perhaps days,
weeks, or months. Sometimes I would write till two in the morning and mull
it over in my mind after going to bed. It had a great affect on my sleep. I
suppose there were times I was somewhat like Elizabeth Coatsworth, a popular
children's writer, who stated, "The only thing worse than writing is not
writing." My last six months, though, I became really serious. I edited and
cut words, sentences, and sometimes whole paragraphs. Janet did a final
read-through, and we sometimes had heated arguments as to whether or not
something would stay, be changed, or deleted altogether. I purchased Noah
Lukeman's The First Five Pages, and it became my right arm,
making me realize that good editing is sometimes painful. I needed a common
thread to tie all my stories together. In 2000, after Janet retired from
teaching, too, we took a two-week trip out West. During that time, I saw
things that reminded me of my childhood on Bowen Creek. In the end, that
trip became the link needed to tie everything together. I wanted to get it
published before Christmas 2002, so readers could have it as one of their
gifts to open on Christmas Day. I received my first shipment of books by
December 15. The joy of holding the first copy in my hands is beyond
description.
Q: For most of us, that
time and place you wrote about in your memoir seems like an old movie. Not
many of us were able to experience that kind of country life as a child.
Tell us what you remember best about your childhood.
The thing I remember most about
my childhood is simple: we were allowed to be kids. Things were different
back then. We knew our limitations by intuition. For instance, my father
kept a loaded shotgun standing in the corner. We knew to not bother it
without being told. We matured early on because we had responsibilities.
Janet and I get our grandsons, Andrew and Tanner, off to school each day.
The other morning we were sitting at the breakfast table, and she said, "I
wish they didn't have to get up so early." I told her, "Well, at least they
don't have to get out on cold winter mornings and milk cows before they have
to go to school," something my brother Philip and I had to do in the '40s
and '50s. We created our own fun by roaming the hills, pretending to be
cowboys and Indians, wading the creek and lifting up rocks to find the giant
crawdads, camping out with friends, damming up the creek to make a swimming
hole, turning the barn loft into a playhouse, swinging on grapevines,
walking on stilts cut from saplings, smoking whenever we could find a
cigarette (new or used), setting traps along the creek to catch muskrats for
their hides, and the list goes on. There was no TV in the house at that
time, so we stayed outside most days whether it was summer or winter. We
didn't have time to be bored. Watching my father butcher the hogs in
November or my mother wringing a chicken's head off and cleaning it for
supper wasn't something gruesome nor did it make future mental cases out of
us. They were things that were natural for survival and interesting to watch
besides. Cousins would come and stay weeks at a time, and we'd laugh
ourselves silly. Through it all, Mother didn't seem to mind at all if we
tramped through the house with mud or snow on our shoes. Our floors were
covered with cheap linoleum purchased from the general store down the road
for nearly nothing. A broom and a mop would make it like new again, for as
long as they could stand the constant cleanings. And when one linoleum wore
out, Mother would send us for another one. She and my sisters kept the house
clean, but there was no carpet or other finery to worry about, so home was
the perfect place to be. Although it was too small for a family of eight,
living under cramped conditions drew us closer together both physically and
figuratively. Yes, life was different back then, and it's sad that kids
today cannot experience the simple childhood of yesteryear.
Q: Family seems most
important to you, not only in your writings but also in the emails you've
send me over the years. Why do you think you have this closeness with your
family? Why is it to you so important?
My family is close mainly
because of my parents. They talked to us, listened, and laughed at the
things we had to say. We were important to them, and they would tell us
stories about the way things used to be almost daily. We would listen to
them tell these stories and delighted in hearing them time and again. This
may sound odd to some, but I think a lot of our closeness centered around
food. My mother was a wonderful cook, and she passed on this trait to all my
siblings and me. Even after we were married, our visits back home always
involved a fantastic meal. And, we had family gatherings often. We knew all
our first, second, and third cousins, all our aunts and uncles, great-aunts
and great-uncles, and on down the line when we were growing up. We knew them
because they were important to us. I can't begin to tell you how exciting it
was for relatives to visit. And, if they spent the night, that was the
ultimate thrill. Sometimes there would be so many, some of us would have to
sleep on the floor. But that wasn't hardship; it was fun. I say all this
because children today don't really know who all their relatives are. When I
taught school, kids would be telling me some tale about one of their
relatives, and then they'd say, for example, "I think he's my uncle. I can't
remember." I would say, "Don't you know who your relatives are?" and they'd
say, "It's my mom's brother. Would that make him my uncle?" I've had
numerous students tell me they had two moms and two dads. What a sad thing.
With the divorce rate what it is today, it's no wonder kids don't have a
sense of belonging to a family group. I may be rambling here. I don't know.
Perhaps you get the point of what I'm talking about.
Q: You have had many
things happen to your family in recent years. Has this changed you in any
way for better or worse?
My brother, Kenneth's, oldest
son died at the age of thirty from a heart attack. Kenneth's youngest son,
Gabe, was mauled to death by their family dog. I've lost both my parents,
and my brother, Philip, passed away in June from lung cancer. In October,
2004, our daughter-in-law, Cheryl, telephoned us from the hospital at two in
the morning saying she had our oldest son, Anthony, in the emergency room,
that he either had lymphoma or leukemia. That was on a Sunday. On Monday, a
bone marrow test confirmed the doctor's initial diagnosis. When Kenneth and
Donna, his wife, lost their two sons, it was heartbreaking to witness their
hurt. It was different with my parents, however, In a sense, my dad died
sixteen years before his actual death, suffering from dementia or organic
brain syndrome, so I was ready to give him up. He was eighty-nine. Then, my
mother died at ninety with a heart condition. When I was a youngster, I
feared the day I would have to see my mother die, but the day it happened,
God saw me through it all. In fact, I was with both my parents when they
died, able to touch them one last time while they were still warm. I'm glad
I was with them, too, for they would have been there for me. Philip's death
has been difficult. For sixty-one years there were six of us, three boys and
three girls. Suddenly, there were only five. My arch enemy while we were
growing up was gone, and I missed him terribly. I long to see him and talk
about things we did when we were little. Again, I was there in the hospital
room with him when he passed away. And, again, I'm glad I could be there.
The morning we got the call about Anthony, I was devastated. I lost control
of my emotions immediately and wept without shame. I told Janet, "He's dead!
He's dead! He's dead!" Here he is, studying to be an anesthetist, with a
wonderful future ahead, and now this. He's such a good person and so easy to
raise. Why is this happening? These thoughts rushed through my mind. As
it turned out, Anthony began responding to the medication they gave him
immediately. He finished his schooling, passed his boards, and is a working
anesthetist with a bright future. How could I not change for the better
through all this. God has been so good to me, and I cannot thank Him enough.
Q: Some people have been
wondering what happened to you after you ended your first book. They wanted
to know what the author is doing with his life now. So I will ask you—what
has life been like for you since you ended that book, and what are you doing
today?
Well, the response to River
of Memories was more than I ever anticipated. My readers have been so
kind, and I cannot thank them enough for their phone calls, cards, email,
and snail mail. They have certainly been food for my ego. I have heard from
folks as far away as The Land Down Under, Australia. I stay busy
corresponding with new acquaintances and rekindling friendships from the
past. It has been a fabulous ride. However, right now I am in a slump. I
have a bad case of the winter blues. Next to August, February is my least
favorite month. Everything looks gray, and we desperately need a fresh coat
of spring greenery in West Virginia. Janet and I get Andrew and Tanner off
to school and have them after school most days till their mother comes to
pick them up. I'm on the computer a lot, either reading email or responding.
I do write, but it's slow going. Presently, I'm working on another memoir,
sort of telling all that stuff I forgot to tell the first time around.
Occasionally, I hold book signings, most of them at a place called Tamarack.
"The Best of West Virginia," is their motto. It's the perfect place to sign,
too. It's located on I-77, in Beckley, West Virginia, and the audience I
receive there is from all across this great country of ours. Sometimes
they'll say, "I can't believe I have a book that's actually signed by the
author," and that makes me feel really good, like it's a New York Times #1
Bestseller. Then I come home to Salt Rock to find that I'm only an ordinary
citizen again. A big trip is always planned for September. Since River of
Memories, Janet and I have been on a Hawaiian cruise and out West twice.
I can't get enough of the West. It's in my blood, and I always put up an
argument about going there rather than some other insignificant spot on the
globe. We attend church on Sunday morning and evening and then on Wednesday
evening, too, for prayer service. That's a good thing. I don't think God
would be pleased if I didn't give Him at least two days out of seven.
Besides, the older I get, the more I feel the need for Him in my life.
Q: Did you ever wish that
you had lived someplace else or had a different life beginning?
When I was in third grade, I
read in a book at Upper Bowen School, a one-roomer, about New York City and
the Empire State Building. I longed to see it and stand atop its 102nd
floor. The highest I'd ever been off the ground was the fourth floor of J.C.
Penney in Huntington, West Virginia. Of course, the West Virginia Building
in Huntington had fifteen floors, but I'd never stood on its top floor
either. I could spend hours looking at pictures of big cities and their tall
buildings, studying charts that listed important cities and their
populations. I'd sit and wonder what it would be like living in one of them
and how different it would be from living on Bowen Creek. When I turned
eighteen, my cousin and I made plans to move to California, but those plans
never came to fruition. A few years later, Uncle Sam came calling, and it
didn't take long for me to discover what the term homesick really
meant. Bowen Creek never looked so good. Yes, I suppose I did wish, during
my early years, that I could live someplace else or had a different life
beginning, but that's all behind me now. I've seen most of the big cities
and their tall buildings, their traffic congestion, loud sirens, bright
lights, and all. But that's not for me anymore. I'm perfectly content living
on Madison Creek in Salt Rock, where the sounds I hear are the rushing brook
after a rain, birds chirping from the tree limbs, the wind whispering
through aging trees on the hillside, and my grandsons engaged in outdoor
activity.
Q: You have said before
that you have thought about a follow-up book or at least another book before
you grow too much older. What is the status of that creative dream?
You're making me think I'd
better get on the ball. After all, the last time I looked in the mirror, it
didn't appear that I'm getting any younger. The status of my creative dream
depends on whether you are talking about what I have in my head or actually
down on paper. If we go by what I have on paper, then I have months of
writing and editing to do. On the other hand, if we're talking about that
which is imprisoned in my storehouse of knowledge, then the creative dream
was completed this past October. No doubt you are reading some of the
sentences that will appear in my next piece of work as I respond to some of
the questions for this interview. As I write, I'm thinking, This might
sound good in my next book. If I store this interview on my computer or
on a floppy disk and use bits and pieces of it in my next creative dream,
will you accuse me of plagiarism since it's part of the information
contained on your website? If so, tell me now. I don't want to get myself
into trouble now that I'm three score and two, sitting at home patiently
awaiting my next Social Security check to arrive in the mail.
Q: I have read in your
message that you have some regrets about not seeing any major military
action in Vietnam. We both know that where you were stationed in Vietnam had
many risks from just being there, so why all the guilt feelings? After all,
you did your duty.
As you said, there were risks
from just being there: the risk of being snipered while driving from one
village to the next, getting shot down while being transported by helicopter
or other air transport, getting nailed while standing in a foxhole during
perimeter guard duty, or walking to the compound shower to wash away the
jungle's stickiness. It was guerilla warfare, and no one was exempt from the
enemy's weapon. However, I was a 71C30, secretary to the I.G. I had no
control over my assigned duty. My business school education and civilian
skills dictated where I could be used more efficiently. I traveled all over
South Vietnam with him and saw a lot of the countryside. On the other hand,
I saw and heard a lot of things that touched my inner soul forever. We
visited the hospitals, and I witnessed the wounded and bleeding coming in by
helicopter. I listened to stories told by infantrymen who came to our
compound for a few days' rest, stories that instilled a deep respect for
them yet infused me with a deep sense of guilt, that they were forced to
face major military action whether they wanted to or not. When I visited the
Vietnam Memorial in Washington, D.C., there was a ghostlike silence. The
visitors' tones were inaudible except for those standing close to them. I
envisioned the flag-draped coffins being removed from planes and families
grieving over loved ones whose lives had been taken way too soon. My eyes
welled with tears, and I wept bitterly
–
in silence. Yes, I did my duty, and
with it comes a sense of honor. But on the other hand, let me have my guilt
feelings. Let me suffer in silence for the wounded and the dead. It's the
least I can do for those who gave the ultimate sacrifice. To do otherwise
would be dishonorable, and I couldn't live with that kind of shame.
Q: Are there any regrets
in your life or anything you would like to have done differently?
I suppose we all have regrets
about the things we have or haven't done with our lives. Some regrets are
small and relatively unimportant, while others are huge and difficult to
overcome. For the purposes of this interview, perhaps I should focus more on
the significant things to be repentant about. First, I'm sorry I didn't
spend more time with my two sons while they were growing up. Please don't
take me wrong. Janet and I took them places and did things with them. They
had hot meals for breakfast and dinner, and we were always there for them
when they needed us. They were good boys and very easy to raise, but I took
them for granted. As a teacher, I had lessons to prepare and stacks of
papers to grade in the evenings and on weekends. After Anthony and Nathan
matured and moved out, it dawned on me that I had spent way too much time on
other people's kids and not enough on my own. And for that, I am deeply
remorseful. The thing for which I am most penitent, however, is not reading
my Bible more, starting at a younger age. I should have been more into His
Word, memorizing verses to share with those whom I came in contact when
opportunity presented itself. I could have been more prayerful and
meditative on a daily basis, thinking of others rather than myself. He
should have been the Focus of my life, and everything else would have fallen
into place. What can I do about it, now? Nothing. I'm now in my golden
years. People and places and things are difficult to remember. At this
point, the focus of my life is whether I've sorted out the right number of
pills to take in the morning to help me face the day and how I can lose
weight to help control my diabetes and blood pressure. You see, our center
of attention is never quite where it should be. We can only look to the
future as if tomorrow we can be a better person than we are today. With that
thought in mind, perhaps there's something I can do to overcome at least a
few of my shortcomings after all.
Q: You retired from
teaching. So, can I ask what and whom you taught? Did you find teaching a
real calling, or was it just a job for you?
My first year of teaching was
spent with a group of second, third, and fourth grade students at a small
three-room school. I had to teach handwriting, spelling, reading, English,
math, social studies, science, music, art, and physical education to all
three groups. I was the greenhorn out of college who was thrown to the
wolves. There was an immediate deep respect for the one-room-school teacher
I had during my first three years at Upper Bowen School in the late '40s and
early '50s. I don't know how they taught all those subjects to all six
grades. In fact, they couldn't have. It was an impossibility. How do I know?
My own experience told me it was impossible. The next year I moved out of
the jungle, to a fifth grade class at Salt Rock Elementary. There I taught
fifth grade for seventeen years. Again, I taught all subjects with the
exception of music, art, and physical education. Since I lived and taught in
the same community, I set high standards for myself and my students. With
high standards came building pressure. I worked hard and so did the
students. The harder we worked, the more papers I had to grade, for I was
never one to exchange papers and let the students do it. Eventually, I dug a
deep hole for myself and couldn't get out. The only means of escape was to
move out. So, when our county went to the middle school system, I moved to
seventh grade, teaching social studies, science, and reading. Planning
lessons was much easier and less time consuming, but I found I couldn't be
as attentive to the students in forty-five minutes as I was when I had them
all day. I didn't know them as well individually. Although I missed my
elementary students, I stayed at the middle school level until retirement.
Did I find teaching a real calling? I can't really say. When I see former
students in the work force today who have become teachers themselves,
writers, doctors, lawyers, and blue-collar workers, many tell me I was the
best teacher they ever had. You see, I don't think children want us to allow
undisciplined actions, slothfulness, and work ethic to slide. They look to
us as role models, not as their best friend. So, if I listen to the words of
my former students who have met with success, then I made the right
decision. Sure, there were times that it was "just a job" for me, and many
days I wanted to call the central office and say, "Take this job and shove
it!" To do that, however, would not have been the real David Lee Thompson.
My desire to do the right thing was instilled in me by my own parents many
years before I decided to become an educator.
Q: You are not the same
person you were thirty-five years ago, and, I assume, not even the same
individual you were last year. So, I will ask you—what changed in your
attitude, emotions, and even in your spiritual views? Have these changes
been for the best or your betterment, or have you felt that you are slipping
back little?
Oh, how well you know me,
Bill
–
not for thirty-five years, but at least a coupleand already you can
see modifications taking place. I never began to examine the "person change"
until I was forty. I looked back and thought, People don't really mature
until they're at least thirty. Then at fifty, I vowed that maturity
didn't come till we reached forty. Before I knew what was happening, sixty
showed up, and the decade for maturation had risen to fifty. Now, by the
time I reach seventy, who knows what experiences will cross my path to
institute further internal changes in me. I've finally reached that point in
my life where it doesn't matter if the dirty dishes from breakfast wait
until noon to be washed, the sun's rays through the family room window
contain more dust than usual, whether I've shaved two days in a row,
polished my shoes to perfection before presenting myself to the public, or
if the grass can wait just one more day before having the mower taken to it
again. It's unhealthy to concentrate on the trivial things of life in most
instances. Now, the crucial list overrides the insignificant. Oh, my. I just
fell asleep answering this question, Bill. Do you suppose that was vital? It
must have been. I find it happens often these days, and without realizing
it's coming, I find myself waking up. As I was saying, the essential things
dominate the unimportant: Does Janet have the medication she needs for her
asthma and heart condition; will Anthony's next bone marrow test from Duke
University turn out all right; is Nathan okay when he doesn't call from
North Carolina when we think he should; and the list continues. My spiritual
views are more rock solid than they once were. I used to question the reason
for my existence. As it is now, however, my questions concerning the reasons
for my presence on Earth are no longer skepticism. The human side of me has
relented, accepting the spiritual realities of my existence. I'm here for
the simple reason that God created me for His glory, to fellowship with Him
as a free, moral agent to choose, love, and serve Him. I do feel my changes
are for the better. Yes, there are times that I find myself slipping back a
little. We all do that on occasion. But we must pick ourselves up and
persevere, continue trying as long as we have breath in us to battle for the
good of mankind.
Q: What do you now value
more highly than other things in your life?
Without question, God must come
first in my life. He commands that we must put nothing before Him. Next is
Janet, the other half of me. A sense of guilt, however, comes with placing
her second. Something tells me she should be first. But to put God between
the two of us would be like splitting myself in half, and I cannot consider
myself ahead of Him. Third comes my sons and grandsons. Again, I am bothered
by having them third in line. To place them third is to value myself more
highly than they, since I am the other half of my wife, who's in second
place. It's all very confusing, don't you think? After that are my siblings
and other relatives, country, friends, health, the innate beauty of the
world, and all the other people and situations of this world that I have no
control over but can pray to my God that His will be done.
Q: : How important is your
spiritual/religious life? Does it motivate how you live your life?
My spiritual life is very
important to me. As I said before, God comes first in my life. I must put
nothing before Him. Therefore, He dictates how I live my life. Do I have the
perfect life? Definitely not. I'm sorry to say that I commit some kind of
sin daily, either by commission or omission. No one can be perfect as long
as we are in our worldly bodies, but we must strive to do so daily. Do I
sound as though I am one of those religious fanatics? I hope not. I can't
even say I do the best I can. My heart tells me I need to do better, but I
fail miserably.
Q: Do you have any short
or long-term creative goals for the coming years?
My short-term goal is to finish
my next book before October. The experts tell me that fall is the best time
to put books into the hands of readers. As for the long-term, we'll just
have to wait for that one. I do think I will always be writing in the
future. It's now in my blood. Besides, my readers keep hounding me about it.
I recently said to one of my writing friends, "I feel as if writing keeps me
from doing some of the things God would want me to do." She said, "I look at
it like this: if someone likes my writing, and they get joy out of it, then
that's God's way of telling me I'm doing something for that person." I sorta
look at it like that, too, and I'm glad Justine helped me look at writing in
a different light.
Q: How do you feel about
the world situation right now? Do you think things are getting better or
worse for the world at large? Do you have any strong opinions about the war
or politics?
I feel that the world situation
is grave. I do wish I could be more optimistic about our present conditions,
but I can't. Things are getting worse daily. Terrorism is such an awful
thing. And how do we fight an enemy who doesn't care to die? Ever since
9/ll, it seems as though everything is rapidly spiraling downward. Do I like
war and want it to divide our country the way it has? I think you know me
well enough to know the answer to that. But someone has to take the reins. I
may find myself in disagreement about some things on occasion, but we must
take a stand against terrorism. And it appears that we are the ones who have
to take the lead. It's as though all the things and situations that should
be morally right in the world are suddenly perverse, something to be
stifled. I can tell you this: I would rather trust the decisions of those
world leaders who are determined to set things right morally than to be
bombarded negatively by Hollywood and the news media on a daily basis. I
don't know, Bill. I honestly don't know. I can only trust that God's will be
done.
Q: Have you read any of
the books by the other MWSA authors? If you have, are there any that you
liked or recommend to others?
Truthfully, the only one I have
read is, A Spiritual Warrior's Journey, by you, W. H. McDonald, Jr.
It is difficult, however, to add anything to Jan Hornung's insightful
Foreword about your book. I can say, however, that A Spiritual Warrior's
Journey touched on all my emotions. I was deeply saddened when I read
about your R&R in Tokyo. For the first time I understood what you must have
meant when you said in your review of my own book, that our lives were much
different during our formative years. I also had a sudden and deep respect
for the helicopter gunners on the hueys that flew the I.G. and me to the
various locations during my tour of duty in Vietnam. Thank you, Bill.
Someone like you protected me from the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese
soldiers lurking in the jungles below. And, yes, I would highly recommend
your book to others, whether they be Vietnam veterans or my wife sitting in
the family room rocker next to me. Finally, I must say that I shall never
again look at another owl and feel the same.
Q: Do you have any
present-day heroes? Who was your ideal hero growing up?
My answer to this is that I have
many present-day heroes
– plurally speaking.
They are the men and women who stand on the firing line and in the trenches
daily to fight for the betterment of all mankind. Many are in hostile areas
such as Iraq and Afghanistan, but others are in Washington, fighting a war
of words in all three branches of government, in combat daily over making
the right decisions for the world as a whole. When I was twelve, I wanted to
be like Hopalong Cassidy, Roy Rogers, The Lone Ranger, Sky King, and Don
Eagle, the wrestler. But more than any of these, I wanted to be like someone
closer to my own age –
the boy who played Joey on the contemporary western,
Fury. I wanted to live on Broken Wheel Ranch so badly I could almost
taste it. Now, I ask myself, Why do we have to grow up and face this
world of reality? Do you ever want to be little again, Bill, and have
all the bad things suddenly disappear.
Q: If you could pass along
some of your wisdom to others, what life lessons have you learned that you
feel is important or even key to personal happiness or some degree if inner
peace?
This is difficult. I don't know
if I consider myself to be wise. I suppose my advice to all is to keep
trying to put some degree of trust in others. There's an old saying, "I
wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them." I'd like to think that I
can at least trust others as far as I can see them through a set of
binoculars. I think the key to personal happiness is to be content with
man's basic needs: food, clothing, and shelter. But to this I must add:
develop a personal relationship with God.
Q: Can you tell us
something about yourself that others would not know from just reading your
book?
I'm a self-proclaimed
perfectionist. I got it from my father. What a miserable inheritance. That's
why I wouldn't let my students trade papers and grade them nor would I allow
them to grade their own. I had to do it myself so I could catch all their
missing jots and tittles. I didn't do it to destroy their self-esteem at
all. I did it because it was my job to help put them on the road to
improvement and not make the same mistakes again. The truth of the matter
is: they would probably have learned more had I let them grade their own
work. It would have been reinforcement of skills, going through the lesson a
second time with them. And besides that, I could have spent more home time
with Anthony and Nathan. But you see, I like doing things for myself. That
way, I know it's done right. There once was a hypochondriac who had the
following inscribed on his headstone: "See, I Told You I Was Sick." Being
the self-declared stickler that I am, one who suffers from chronic
hypertension and anxiety, my marker will no doubt read: "Went to Meet His
Maker, Trying to be Perfect."
Q: Are you afraid (or were
you ever afraid) of anything in your life?
Yes, I'm afraid. I'm afraid of
the future for my sons and grandsons. I'm afraid of what horrific situation
I may have to face myself before I depart this world. I'm afraid of the
physical pain or mental anguish either my loved ones or I may have to
suffer. I'm afraid of the panic attacks I'm forced to endure. They arrive
unannounced and without warning or reason. When they appear, they strike
with a hellish vengeance, rendering me pale and hopelessly afraid. It's as
if I'm going to die, not sometime out there in the future, but right now,
this very moment. I blame it on Agent Orange. I cannot rationalize any other
reason for it. But with prayer, God's mercy, and Janet's love and
understanding, I will find reassurance to the end.
Q: Is there some personal
goal of self-improvement that is tops on your do list?
I desire to be a better
Christian, husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle, neighbor, and
citizen. Perhaps I should have picked only one for self-improvement. Then
the others would fall in place. Do you know me well enough by now to choose
the one I should have selected? In addition, I desperately need to exercise
regularly. During my last visit with my primary care physician at the VA, he
spent my entire half-hour session, pounding into my stubborn head the
importance of exercise. Not only would it help lower my blood pressure, it
would also help my diabetes and decrease my level of anxiety. I already knew
the truth of the matter. We didn't even have to discuss it. I now have two
weeks before my next visit. I think I'll begin tomorrow. That way, I can
truthfully tell him that I have, indeed, been doing what he said.
Q: Any parting words that
you would like to add about yourself?
I really think I've said enough
about myself, but I do wish to be remembered as though I have tried to live
my life according to the words of Denis Waitley: Happiness cannot be
traveled to, owned, earned, worn or consumed. Happiness is the spiritual
experience of living every minute with love, grace, and gratitude. And
may I extend to all the veterans of this country
– especially to you,
Bill, for the great work you have done for each of us
– a hearty, "Welcome
Home!"
Bill: Thanks David for
your time and allowing us to explore so much personal stuff.
Thank you, Bill. It has been my
pleasure to serve you for a change.
*Learn more about David Lee
Thompson by visiting his
website.
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